Jonathan Bush from Athena Health on Government Reforms

Great interview on CNN Fast Money program with Jonathan Bush commenting on the investment and reforms and how this might impact his company.

He makes some salient points and in particular the focus on delivering data and focusing on data rather than paying to implement a bunch of "legacy systems" is the way to effect real change. Not using the money to "buy toys with it".

Athena Health helps clinicians get paid more money faster. They deal with the payment back end of health care. As opposed to building your own claim activity or use someone else who specializes like Visa does for retailers. So I guess Athena is the Visa of Health care. They offer Software Enabled Services rather than "shrink wrapped toys". In his word the key process starts with:

Step 1: Crap Removal

They claim to have one of the most sophisticated back ends in the business and they deal with 23,000lbs of paper for their customers each week! How they extract data from this is beyond me if this is coming in in paper form....

Follow this with a program not so much focused on the amount of investment but rather the execution that:

Pay for data and pay for results

Then stop using these legacy devices and start working towards capturing this as data as part of the process. Here he is singing my song and the need to capture the information in computer interpretable form (I have to believe that some portion of the 23,000 lbs of paper is being processed by an army of folks to digitize and extract data from it) and make this a requirement.

Once again Healthstory help satisfy this need allowing for the generation of the fine clinical narrative detail but complementing this with structured tagged data that can be used to process and show the health improvements and facilitate the flow of reimbursement for better results at higher rates.

Doctors in the Typing Pool

An interesting blog from Westby Fisher on the failures of EMR systems that what it has turned our clinical staff into:

"...the world's most expensive typing pool has been born"

As he notes

Each morning, without fail, there's one or two individuals circling the computer terminals waiting for access to these electronic monetary portals, like children waiting to grab the last chair when the music stops.

That's true but I think the missing comparison here is how it used to be before the advent of the EMR's.....I can remember the same scene on the wards I worked on but instead of waiting for a seat in front of a computer it was waiting to get access to the "notes trolley" and the wait and frustration was no different and in many respects worse since there was only one record and therefore only one person could access it and enter data into the record. Much of this could be fixed with more accessibility, more computers or even better mobile access to the clinical data (here's one example combining the latest user friendly gadget with EMR access - you can see a video of this in action here:

But the issue of canned content being generated in large quantities with shortcut codes and pulling information from other sources to create a document is a problem. To create my note I can type
.id .pmh .psh .cmed .all .soc ....... you get the picture. These commands pulling data from other sources that add little to the actual clincal value of the document:

....demographics from the Central Registration.....four pages of Past Medical History...the original work was completed by the patient's poor primary care physician, neatly organized, but never to be updated again

.......page and a half of the current medications, their dose, prescribing physician, half of which come from self-generated 'CYA' hypoglycemia orders are also self-generated in the interest of 'safety'.....

......."Mother died of CA" automatically spits out previously entered by the hospitalist - bless their soul - so that billing to Medicare can go from Level 4 to Level 5 for the rest of the health care team

When clinical documentation really was clinical documentation and not just an automatic regurgitation of previous clinical notes captured by other people, the process of documenting was part of the clinicians analytical process. Entering the details was important as it afforded an opportunity to think about the patient, their history, symptoms, and signs and provided real input to the diagnostic process to arrive at a differential diagnosis and plan for the next steps. Clinicians are still trying to do this but all the while working to satisfy the documentation requirements so they can bill for their services

The rest is for Medicare and has been added repetitively and
identically by countless other individuals, all whom enter the same
content to assure achieving the maximum amount billed by law for their
services. Not that any of it is read, mind you, but it'd better be
there, lest the Medicare auditors descend on your facility.

Technology has helped kill the richness and detail of clinical documents and turned detail rich
reports into dumbed down "fill in the blank" cookie cutter reports that do not
reflect the richness of the information that physicians wants to provide to the colleagues.

In a recent discussion with a busy radiologists he remarked that what the referring physician needs from him is "more detail". He wants to provide the referring physician
the clinical information they need to treat the patient giving them the confidence in the information they receive with a rich detailed report that speaks their language.

So as not to reach the destination for the future of medicine painted by Westby Fisher:

Will they (future doctors) actually process what is entered, or merely become
highly-efficient typists and plagiarists in the never-ending quest to
become more "efficient" health care providers?

we must provide the tools that allow for clinicians to document clinical information efficiently with the richness of medical language while still providing the computers and clinical systems with their bits and bytes of data that allows these tools to function and help support the clinicians in the delivery of clinical cared